Comments on: The Digital Poem as a Concrete Poem http://netpoetic.com/2009/08/the-digital-poem-as-a-concrete-poem/ exploring digital poetry and electronic literature Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:19:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: lori.emerson http://netpoetic.com/2009/08/the-digital-poem-as-a-concrete-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-145 lori.emerson Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:00:20 +0000 http://netpoetic.com/?p=529#comment-145 Jason, as always I can't wait to see your new work! And Sandy, thanks to you too for your thoughtful response. I think you're right, that code need not be thought of as material but it's what I happen to mostly and immediately think of when I "read" it - that is, I spend most of my time looking. Like Peirce's logical graphs: maybe problematically, I have no desire to know what they're actually representing! Jason, as always I can’t wait to see your new work!

And Sandy, thanks to you too for your thoughtful response. I think you’re right, that code need not be thought of as material but it’s what I happen to mostly and immediately think of when I “read” it – that is, I spend most of my time looking. Like Peirce’s logical graphs: maybe problematically, I have no desire to know what they’re actually representing!

]]> By: heliopod http://netpoetic.com/2009/08/the-digital-poem-as-a-concrete-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-141 heliopod Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:22:57 +0000 http://netpoetic.com/?p=529#comment-141 I'll be releasing....as in the next few days, a new digital poem based on menus. What made it particularly interesting was the xml file writing required. Each line is in this menu-submenu-submenu, etc configuration, so the writing process became very visual and geometric. So in a way the CODE work was more GEOMETRIC work. With organization and levels of much greater importance than any coding. Then the final result is very much an ever evolving and recombinatory concrete poetry engine. I'll be interested in what you think of it. I’ll be releasing….as in the next few days, a new digital poem based on menus. What made it particularly interesting was the xml file writing required. Each line is in this menu-submenu-submenu, etc configuration, so the writing process became very visual and geometric.

So in a way the CODE work was more GEOMETRIC work.
With organization and levels of much greater importance than any coding. Then the final result is very much an ever evolving and recombinatory concrete poetry engine.

I’ll be interested in what you think of it.

]]> By: Sandy Baldwin http://netpoetic.com/2009/08/the-digital-poem-as-a-concrete-poem/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Sandy Baldwin Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:56:12 +0000 http://netpoetic.com/?p=529#comment-140 An important topic and set of questions - I'm trying to get my thoughts together on the concrete as well - but I want to say that I'm not sure how to parse the final question about codework and medium of presentation. It is true that "codework" emerged from the American Book Review issue edited by Alan Sondheim (the only prior usage I've found is minor and in textbooks on debugging C). "Code poem" is harder to track. In either case, I don't think that codework (etc.) involves a "focus on matter and materiality"; I do think that one outcome of the performativity of codework is such a focus, that is, one might read codework in this way. But there are other outcomes, other readabilities that emerge, notably a focus in terms of the writer. This is a problem of the "subject" of code. An important topic and set of questions – I’m trying to get my thoughts together on the concrete as well – but I want to say that I’m not sure how to parse the final question about codework and medium of presentation. It is true that “codework” emerged from the American Book Review issue edited by Alan Sondheim (the only prior usage I’ve found is minor and in textbooks on debugging C). “Code poem” is harder to track. In either case, I don’t think that codework (etc.) involves a “focus on matter and materiality”; I do think that one outcome of the performativity of codework is such a focus, that is, one might read codework in this way. But there are other outcomes, other readabilities that emerge, notably a focus in terms of the writer. This is a problem of the “subject” of code.

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